2020 Shelby GT 500 is toast vs Redeye in drag race

[Redeye_Brett]

I guess all the smack talking GT 500 fan boys can finally shut up...A well modded 2020 GT 500 only goes 9.93...Same mods on a Redeye and they go low 9's...Not only that but the trans can hold it...Good luck DCT trans. In the end Ford came up short and all the smack talk the Ford guys did well now they all can eat their talk.
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[Hpindy]

Ford sucks

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[Marc W]

There’s some weird stuff going on with the launch control with these things. He’s hitting the car hard off the line and yet it is not spinning the tires. At well over the 900whp, the launch control is doing some major shit to keep it from blowing those tires away. The 60’ was in the 1.6’s. That sucks. Put some drag wheels and tires on it and turn that control off so it can put some power down off the line and that et will drop significantly.

 

[motorhead]

There’s some weird stuff going on with the launch control with these things. He’s hitting the car hard off the line and yet it is not spinning the tires. At well over the 900whp, the launch control is doing some major shit to keep it from blowing those tires away. The 60’ was in the 1.6’s. That sucks. Put some drag wheels and tires on it and turn that control off so it can put some power down off the line and that et will drop significantly.

Or the Tremec explodes.

At least that's what everyone keeps telling me my TR-6060 is destined for. LOL.

 

[Marc W]

I guess time will tell. Hard launches at the track trying to keep up with modded Hellcats will expose its weak points if it has them. 1.6 sixty ft’s aren’t going to get it done and once they do what it takes to knock that down into the 1.3’s..... we gonna see

 

[ChargerChallenger]

Good video and I just yesterday changed my GT500 order to Iconic Silver from Twister Orange. And for those who bash the competition doesn’t make sense. Without competition you dont know What you have. And for the record Ford never gave up on making the Mustang good, bad, ugly and now pretty damn sweet. Dodge and Chevy having taking many time outs on their pony muscle cars over the years and Ford started the pony wars so thank you Ford. And would we have the bad ass Hellcats today had the niche market been ignored?

 

[motorhead]

I guess time will tell. Hard launches at the track trying to keep up with modded Hellcats will expose its weak points if it has them. 1.6 sixty ft’s aren’t going to get it done and once they do what it takes to knock that down into the 1.3’s..... we gonna see

TR-9070 (GT500 spec)
Torque Capacity 664 lb-ft

TR-6060 (HC spec)
Torque Capacity 650 lb-ft

The absence of the torque converter is the limiting factor.

 

[stonewall]

They sure seemed to be scratching, looking for an excuse as to why they were not setting records. It looks slow as fook launching.

 

[Blkout]

I guess all the smack talking GT 500 fan boys can finally shut up...A well modded 2020 GT 500 only goes 9.93...Same mods on a Redeye and they go low 9's...Not only that but the trans can hold it...Good luck DCT trans. In the end Ford came up short and all the smack talk the Ford guys did well now they all can eat their talk.
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GT500 has been out about a month or two. Give it time, the Hellcat has come a long ways in 5 years. The GT500 is going to give any Redeye Hell in stock trim. When modded, certainly the Redeye had the advantage at the moment due to 5 years of development on the platform. The GT500 will be in the 8s within a year.

 

[Blkout]

Good video and I just yesterday changed my GT500 order to Iconic Silver from Twister Orange. And for those who bash the competition doesn’t make sense. Without competition you dont know What you have. And for the record Ford never gave up on making the Mustang good, bad, ugly and now pretty damn sweet. Dodge and Chevy having taking many time outs on their pony muscle cars over the years and Ford started the pony wars so thank you Ford. And would we have the bad ass Hellcats today had the niche market been ignored?

Theres an orange GT500 for sale here in GA at a local dealer.

 

[Hpindy]

GT500 has been out about a month or two. Give it time, the Hellcat has come a long ways in 5 years. The GT500 is going to give any Redeye Hell in stock trim. When modded, certainly the Redeye had the advantage at the moment due to 5 years of development on the platform. The GT500 will be in the 8s within a year.

Ford has always had way more aftermarket support then mopar .

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[04Ram2500Hemi]

Good video and I just yesterday changed my GT500 order to Iconic Silver from Twister Orange. And for those who bash the competition doesn’t make sense. Without competition you dont know What you have. And for the record Ford never gave up on making the Mustang good, bad, ugly and now pretty damn sweet. Dodge and Chevy having taking many time outs on their pony muscle cars over the years and Ford started the pony wars so thank you Ford. And would we have the bad ass Hellcats today had the niche market been ignored?

I like the new Mustang (especially in Orange). Only 2 issues with the Mustang:
1- I’m too tall to fit in one comfortably
2- Lithia Ford is crooked as shit in my area ($5,000 markup on all Raptors and I’ve seen $3,000 markup on the Ranger). I simply can’t buy from these guys, and I’m not sure I can trust the service department (some sketchy stories from that department too).

 

[MaxCarnage]

GT500 has been out about a month or two. Give it time, the Hellcat has come a long ways in 5 years. The GT500 is going to give any Redeye Hell in stock trim. When modded, certainly the Redeye had the advantage at the moment due to 5 years of development on the platform. The GT500 will be in the 8s within a year.

Stock to stock (GT500 vs Redeye) the GT500 will be competitive but the 60fts will be holding it back giving all Redeye's an advantage out of the hole. Sure a GT500 will likely be 8s within a year, but on stock transmission? At this point stock to stock, I'll be hearing GT500s wanting to roll race and not go from a dig. Too early to know yet if the DCT will hold power or not when the torque management is turned off. Also while this platform is new, nothing is impressive about running a 9.9 with that power level. Give them a month or two, okay then well stop posting videos of things that aren't all that impressive. What I do like so far the GT500 is making good power and they also seem a bit lighter than advertised as well. I'm just not sold on the DCT until they can 60ft better and the transmission can take the beating.

 

[coolblue]

Good video and I just yesterday changed my GT500 order to Iconic Silver from Twister Orange. And for those who bash the competition doesn’t make sense. Without competition you dont know What you have. And for the record Ford never gave up on making the Mustang good, bad, ugly and now pretty damn sweet. Dodge and Chevy having taking many time outs on their pony muscle cars over the years and Ford started the pony wars so thank you Ford. And would we have the bad ass Hellcats today had the niche market been ignored?

Ok, gave you accolade's for posting vid's and sharing info but now I have a bit of a rant. What company would knowingly produce the Pinto? Who would design a car whose trunk floor is the gas tank?(Mustang, Falcon). On top of that, everyone tout's the original GT40 (and on it's own merit I love that car also) BUT Ford STOLE that championship. They had the European sanctioning bodies change rules mid-year (Gee....wonder how that happened----sudden mid year donation to the Euro racing fund?) when they knew Ferrari didn't have the pockets or means to change foundry castings that fast. I.E. they ran 420+c.i. engine in same class that Ferrari was running 300+ c.i. engine. They've been doing it forever. They would illegally feed there team's one off parts. Like there NASCAR FE motors getting "special" cranks with wider journals and bearings than stock (meaning WHOLE NEW custom castings and machining to fit in stock blocks). ONLY the teams could get. Nowhere could you buy them. Everyone else, (G.M.-Mopar) based on STOCK parts no matter how modified. They did it to Boss 429's also. Chrysler had a production based 426. Ford had again, "special" 1/2 INCH! rod bolts put only in there NASCAR 429's. Try getting a set of those on the street. They also did things that would literally drive mechanics crazy. SAME year motors (again FE) with two different exhaust manifold bolt patterns. Same motor family with two or three different heights for valve pedestals and valve lengths. 6 different tranny options for a three speed Falcon, with the same tranny! in same year! I could go on and on. It's a history of these kinds of things.
BTW I have not seen the new movie 'Ford vs., Ferrari', I do not know if any of this is touched on. In Short I agree with @Hpindy on comment.

 

[badchallenger]

First Off gotta say I bleed Mopar, that said I purchased a new REWB only drove it home before weather set in (300 miles) Also have just driven a GT 500 cold streets, that thing flat out hooked, at a 30 roll it hooked. On the street at a low roll on factory rubber were going to have a hard time, they just dont make the torque, they hook and leave, were spinning. Theres a couple track tests on factory rubber going 10.60s @133 and the sixty ft is weak in a lighter car, thats gonna be a handful when they figure them out. There working on Trannys for the cars currently and have some of the best tranny gurus rubbing on them.
Race Purestock and have spent years and years learning how to make the old cars hook on a 5 inch wide goodyear polyglass gt. Horsepower is great and MPH shows it but you gotta hook and leave to win. Cant tell you how many times around the detroit area I've seen Z06s, Hellcats, ZL1's handed there tail on OEM rubber. The stick drivers are almost always easy prey on OEM rubber, Trackhawks are the exception now.
This happens all too often around the Detroit area on OEM rubber. Gotta hook and leave!!!!!
go to about the 4.45 mark to skip the BS, not my cars either one

 

[badchallenger]

Great VID by Demonology and impute from Ron. The young man that was driving his 500 was great, car was 3 days old, New car, New Dragstrip driver on OEM rubber, now the track was well prepped but that car is strong!!! Redeyes on OEM rubber factory tune, how many guys have went 10.60s ??? That Venom isnt going to kill a Demon on Race gas tune with stickey tires, that said there going to be aiming for Redeyes and they are packing enough heat right from FORD. IMHO

 

[MaxCarnage]

Great VID by Demonology and impute from Ron. The young man that was driving his 500 was great, car was 3 days old, New car, New Dragstrip driver on OEM rubber, now the track was well prepped but that car is strong!!! Redeyes on OEM rubber factory tune, how many guys have went 10.60s ??? That Venom isnt going to kill a Demon on Race gas tune with stickey tires, that said there going to be aiming for Redeyes and they are packing enough heat right from FORD. IMHO

First off, welcome to the forum. The weak point no doubt in RE/HC is factory tires, but it's a simple fix. Swap tires, and hook. The GT500 can hook easier with its stock tires (Which aren't the same size or brand as the Redeyes), but it seems it hits a wall after a certain point of power because of the DCT. That's where the Redeye continues to hook better (On a better tire) and the DCT GT500 doesn't. From a roll it will be a very close race, but from a dig with both cars on drag radials the Redeye will have the advantage. It is pretty cool how well the GT500 hooks with OEM tires, I do wish my Redeye would hook that well on OEM tires. However, I'm glad that the remedy is a simple tire swap. The remedy for the DCT to get better 60fts will likely be a much more costly one. While the race will be much closer from a roll, people will look at the time slips more so than anything else, and those are from a dig. Both cars are cool, just depends on what you are more focused on. Overall car, or a more drag focused one.

 

[stonewall]

First Off gotta say I bleed Mopar, that said I purchased a new REWB only drove it home before weather set in (300 miles) Also have just driven a GT 500 cold streets, that thing flat out hooked, at a 30 roll it hooked. On the street at a low roll on factory rubber were going to have a hard time, they just dont make the torque, they hook and leave, were spinning. Theres a couple track tests on factory rubber going 10.60s @133 and the sixty ft is weak in a lighter car, thats gonna be a handful when they figure them out. There working on Trannys for the cars currently and have some of the best tranny gurus rubbing on them.
Race Purestock and have spent years and years learning how to make the old cars hook on a 5 inch wide goodyear polyglass gt. Horsepower is great and MPH shows it but you gotta hook and leave to win. Cant tell you how many times around the detroit area I've seen Z06s, Hellcats, ZL1's handed there tail on OEM rubber. The stick drivers are almost always easy prey on OEM rubber, Trackhawks are the exception now.
This happens all too often around the Detroit area on OEM rubber. Gotta hook and leave!!!!!
go to about the 4.45 mark to skip the BS, not my cars either one

Really? The guy in the Cat must have been reading the news paper!

 

[moparjim]

Just saw a little video the young guy did.
The one that ran 10.6x stock with the new car. Well he went back on a drag radial and ran a mid 10.6. On the second pass the car went into clutch over temp. Basically cut the power out.
I have said before they will not likely gain what a HC/RE does with a drag radial.
The much lower low end torque is one thing against it. The launch control appears to work pretty well so it is getting more out of the stock tire than the average owner could do themselves.
I don't mess around on the street so I won't be getting my ass handed to me there.
At the track it doesn't seem to me that they will be much quicker there. So a RE should be pretty confident on a tire at the track.
Competition is good and today's performance cars are amazing.

 

[coolblue]

The one that ran 10.6x stock with the new car. Well he went back on a drag radial and ran a mid 10.6. On the second pass the car went into clutch over temp. Basically cut the power out.

Again, I agree with @Hpindy with his statement. "Fords Suck". LOL