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To round this out you can send the TCM to n2speed, 200.00 round trip. Search for Chris Boegler. https://m.facebook.com/chris.boegler
 


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@Jon-MooredPerformanceLLC i went through this. Valve bodies from Dodge come with the TCM. They are blanks. When we programmed mine we put into the system my VIN and it programmed it for that year. Once a VIN is written it cannot be re-programmed by Mopar tools, the functionality simply does not exist. To re-write a vin to a TCM that is already encoded you will need a bench harness. Seqway to:


I am looking at said bench harnesses but they are about 7k in price :(
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Mike I have 2 questions for you
1. The part number on the valve body and tcm seems to be the same. On my personal redeye I put a different trans in. I didn't swap Valve bodies. Well the trans was out of a 21 hellcat. I was having a few weird issues so I brought it to my dealer to flash it. So they did. They said it pulled down my vin but when I got home I still saw the soul of a hellcat and not a redeye config in the tcm. Do you know how the witech detects which config to load in?
2. I am debating about buying a witech. I really do not do a ton of installs I mostly do remote but it would be nice to have. The dealer seems to have very limited capabilities with theirs.
Assuming this is what I am looking for is these two items?
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Jon,
Witech will connect to your vehicle and detect all available modules. If there is a module that shows a newer calibration is available that module can be flashed. If there is no update available your only option will be to reflash the current calibration. All of the updates should be based on the VIN in the BCM. However, I have swapped TCM's and the new/different TCM calibration has shown in WiTech. When this happened it did not show that an update was available but maybe there was no update actually available. Regardless, I do not believe it would be possible for a Witech TCM update to flash a calibration into your TCM that was not for your VIN.

We have several Witech modules in the shop and I can tell you that they are very limited in capability, expensive to own and even if you just buy a weekend subscription, if you want to flash a calibration you also need to purchase a Tech Authority subscription. If you do not do many procedures that require the purchase and use of WiTech I would recommend making friends with a technician at the dealership and paying him/her $100-$200 to come to your shop in the evening when you have a need. You will be way ahead of the game.

There is other far superior software available out there if you know who to ask. It will allow you to flash any calibration (not just the most recent) into almost any module in the vehicle.

Concerning bench flashing a TCM - If you already have a bench flasher for the PCM adding the TCM, BCM etc is a fairly easy process. It is convenient to flash TCM's on the bench if needed.
 


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Jon,
Witech will connect to your vehicle and detect all available modules. If there is a module that shows a newer calibration is available that module can be flashed. If there is no update available your only option will be to reflash the current calibration. All of the updates should be based on the VIN in the BCM. However, I have swapped TCM's and the new/different TCM calibration has shown in WiTech. When this happened it did not show that an update was available but maybe there was no update actually available. Regardless, I do not believe it would be possible for a Witech TCM update to flash a calibration into your TCM that was not for your VIN.

We have several Witech modules in the shop and I can tell you that they are very limited in capability, expensive to own and even if you just buy a weekend subscription, if you want to flash a calibration you also need to purchase a Tech Authority subscription. If you do not do many procedures that require the purchase and use of WiTech I would recommend making friends with a technician at the dealership and paying him/her $100-$200 to come to your shop in the evening when you have a need. You will be way ahead of the game.

There is other far superior software available out there if you know who to ask. It will allow you to flash any calibration (not just the most recent) into almost any module in the vehicle.

Concerning bench flashing a TCM - If you already have a bench flasher for the PCM adding the TCM, BCM etc is a fairly easy process. It is convenient to flash TCM's on the bench if needed.
So who do we ask, Mike? Lol. I know you can put whatever OS on a PCM with a KTag, that’s how mine was done.
 


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In any of your tune files, stock or otherwise, is "[ECM] 39210 - Weighted Catalyst Misfire Load: Weighted Catalyst Misfire Load vs RPM vs Load." editable?
 


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My main VCM Editor version I use is 4.8.7 since that was before some of the weird change HPT made. When I open a 2019 RE stock file in this version the fields are editable.

However, I have a beta version for newer files as well. In this new beta the data is completely different and is a table instead of text boxes and it is not editable.
 


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My main VCM Editor version I use is 4.8.7 since that was before some of the weird change HPT made. When I open a 2019 RE stock file in this version the fields are editable.

However, I have a beta version for newer files as well. In this new beta the data is completely different and is a table instead of text boxes and it is not editable.
I sent a support request to HP Tuners and letting them known that the table is read only. Hopefully they can fix that.
 


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You have got to be fucking kidding me:

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But yet I can turn off DTCs... is this a fucking joke?
 


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Tell em' it's a race car. Now you see why I never upgraded.
unfortunately if your tuner writes a tune in a newer version some older versions may not allow the file to open
 


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So who do we ask, Mike? Lol. I know you can put whatever OS on a PCM with a KTag, that’s how mine was done.
What is the question specifically you are asking here? I did answer the question about TCM flashing. Was there another question?
 


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In any of your tune files, stock or otherwise, is "[ECM] 39210 - Weighted Catalyst Misfire Load: Weighted Catalyst Misfire Load vs RPM vs Load." editable?
Yes, 39210 is editable
 


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What is the question specifically you are asking here? I did answer the question about TCM flashing. Was there another question?
Hey Mike, thanks for getting back to me. Was referring this : “There is other far superior software available out there if you know who to ask. It will allow you to flash any calibration (not just the most recent) into almost any module in the vehicle”
 


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Hey Mike, thanks for getting back to me. Was referring this : “There is other far superior software available out there if you know who to ask. It will allow you to flash any calibration (not just the most recent) into almost any module in the vehicle”
Due to the circumstances that is not something I am at liberty to share. Do some research and you will figure it out. Research some more and you may be able to obtain it for the right amount of $$
 


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I was also looking into the software you may be referring to as far superior. I had decided the witech is not what I want at this time. Thanks for the reply
 


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Mike , sent you a pm that you never answered. I would like to know if you can make this happen on my charger? Thanks
 


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