Stellantis strike

[1971demon]

2 stay open, day will need da support team frum utter plants 2 servive. You have parts plantz and assembly plants 2 rely on each utter,, correct? Sum in da US, sum in Canader, sum in Maxico. 1 feeds da utter?? I have worked on da construction of da plants. Mostly the energy and power plantz.

And here all this time...I thought you were a barber..

 

[Bowtie Guy]

In the US, the pension ask is what might keep UAW strking longer. UAW never expected 40% raises. 28% would be a good get for them.

Whats still confusing to me is if CAW are working, hows that play out if UAW is not working. Plants in Canada are still presumably dependent upon receiving parts and shipping services between the US and Brampton, right?

As of last Friday the plants that are on strike are Assembly plants
This does not affect CAW / Unifor or other UAW plants
If the supplier plants go on strike its a different ballgame
1 supplier can shut several plants across North Amercia

 

[Bowtie Guy]

This will make some asses pucker
&
It was only approved by 54 percent


a Ford worker with one year seniority will move from $25.75 to $46.13 (including the forecasted COLA) by the end of this three-year collective agreement – a wage increase of almost 80% in addition to a $10,000 bonus.

Other highlights include:

• Base hourly wage increase of nearly 20% for production and 25% for trades over lifetime of agreement.
• By the end of the 3-year agreement, a top-rate production assembler will be paid $44.52 per hour, in addition to a forecasted $1.61 cost of living allowance (a total of $46.13); a journeyperson skilled trades worker will be paid $55.97 per hour, in addition to a forecasted $1.61 cost of living allowance (a total of $57.58).
• General wage increases in each year of the agreement with 10% in year one, 2% in year two and 3% in year three.
• Hourly wages for production workers at Ford of Canada is now $11.00 per hour (35%) higher than comparable U.S. autoworkers at Ford.
• Reactivation of the Cost of Living Allowance (COLA).
• Wage progression reduced from 8 to 4 years.
• Start rate for Temporary Part Time and production workers increasing from $24.26 to $29.67/hr., further increasing to $30.26 within 12 months, and $31.16 by the end of the agreement.
• $10,000 Productivity and Quality bonus for full-time employees, $4,000 for Temporary Part Time.
• Improvements to all pension plans.
• Increased Defined Benefit basic monthly benefit rate from $68.60 to $73.60 for production workers, and from $81.60 to $87.60 for Skilled Trades.
  • A production worker retiring at 30 years, under the ’30-and-Out’ pension program will see an increase to their monthly pension from $3,545 to $3,795. For Skilled Trades, their ’30-and-Out’ pension will increase from $3,925 to $4,225.
• Mandatory company contributions to the DC plan increase from 4% to 7%. For example, this represents an immediate company contribution increase from $3,106 to $6,172 in the first year of the agreement, for a top-rated production assembler.
• DC plan members will transition to a new DB-style pension for current plan members and all new hires on January 1, 2025.
• New quarterly payment unique to Canadian retirees, called the Universal Health Care Allowance. These quarterly payments will continue in each year of the 3-year agreement.
• Investment for Essex Engine Plant.
• Special EV Transition measures negotiated for members at Oakville assembly plant.
• Improved Supplemental Unemployment Benefit (SUB) program, raising income replacement top-up while on layoff from 65% to 70% of weekly earnings and reducing eligibility from 3 years to 1 year of seniority.
• 556 retirement incentives at $50,000 each.
• Two new paid holidays: Family Day and National Day for Truth and Reconciliation.
• Major health benefit improvements for active members and retirees, including:
  • Eliminating a quarterly $97 health care deductible;
    o Increase glucose monitoring maximum coverage from $1,600 to $4,000;
    o Increase massage therapy annual maximum ($200 to $300) and physiotherapy coverage ($200 to $400) and eliminated requirements for doctor’s notes;
    o Vision and dental care improvements;
    o Legal Services Plan and Dependent Scholarship plan will now be available to workers after 1 year of seniority (previously 8 years);
    o Among many other health benefit improvements.

 

[Hickster]

Hay 1971,
Dis duz not affect my ablitiez 2 cut female publux hair. Frum da agreement I just read above. The cumsumer will be payen much moe. Guud luck.

 

[Prange]

This will make some asses pucker
&
It was only approved by 54 percent


a Ford worker with one year seniority will move from $25.75 to $46.13 (including the forecasted COLA) by the end of this three-year collective agreement – a wage increase of almost 80% in addition to a $10,000 bonus.

Other highlights include:

• Base hourly wage increase of nearly 20% for production and 25% for trades over lifetime of agreement.
• By the end of the 3-year agreement, a top-rate production assembler will be paid $44.52 per hour, in addition to a forecasted $1.61 cost of living allowance (a total of $46.13); a journeyperson skilled trades worker will be paid $55.97 per hour, in addition to a forecasted $1.61 cost of living allowance (a total of $57.58).
• General wage increases in each year of the agreement with 10% in year one, 2% in year two and 3% in year three.
• Hourly wages for production workers at Ford of Canada is now $11.00 per hour (35%) higher than comparable U.S. autoworkers at Ford.
• Reactivation of the Cost of Living Allowance (COLA).
• Wage progression reduced from 8 to 4 years.
• Start rate for Temporary Part Time and production workers increasing from $24.26 to $29.67/hr., further increasing to $30.26 within 12 months, and $31.16 by the end of the agreement.
• $10,000 Productivity and Quality bonus for full-time employees, $4,000 for Temporary Part Time.
• Improvements to all pension plans.
• Increased Defined Benefit basic monthly benefit rate from $68.60 to $73.60 for production workers, and from $81.60 to $87.60 for Skilled Trades.
  • A production worker retiring at 30 years, under the ’30-and-Out’ pension program will see an increase to their monthly pension from $3,545 to $3,795. For Skilled Trades, their ’30-and-Out’ pension will increase from $3,925 to $4,225.
• Mandatory company contributions to the DC plan increase from 4% to 7%. For example, this represents an immediate company contribution increase from $3,106 to $6,172 in the first year of the agreement, for a top-rated production assembler.
• DC plan members will transition to a new DB-style pension for current plan members and all new hires on January 1, 2025.
• New quarterly payment unique to Canadian retirees, called the Universal Health Care Allowance. These quarterly payments will continue in each year of the 3-year agreement.
• Investment for Essex Engine Plant.
• Special EV Transition measures negotiated for members at Oakville assembly plant.
• Improved Supplemental Unemployment Benefit (SUB) program, raising income replacement top-up while on layoff from 65% to 70% of weekly earnings and reducing eligibility from 3 years to 1 year of seniority.
• 556 retirement incentives at $50,000 each.
• Two new paid holidays: Family Day and National Day for Truth and Reconciliation.
• Major health benefit improvements for active members and retirees, including:
  • Eliminating a quarterly $97 health care deductible;
    o Increase glucose monitoring maximum coverage from $1,600 to $4,000;
    o Increase massage therapy annual maximum ($200 to $300) and physiotherapy coverage ($200 to $400) and eliminated requirements for doctor’s notes;
    o Vision and dental care improvements;
    o Legal Services Plan and Dependent Scholarship plan will now be available to workers after 1 year of seniority (previously 8 years);
    o Among many other health benefit improvements.

That seems like a pretty stout contract. I would vote for it.

 

[Hickster]

Yea, if youz was a worka bee, butt snot a salez purson or a consumer. Youz think da companies and stock holders will make up da difference? Thank again voter.

 

[Prange]

Hickster, you are correct. From the worker's view, it's great. I don't see any possibility of them getting more.

However, Corporations don't pay for anything, the customers do.

 

[Hickster]

Wow Prange, thank you. Hear we call em prawns fer dinner. But 1st time I have bean rite in 66 ears. We bee right at day ain't payen fur nuthin. Boy, Girl, sumone is taken da hit and hard. Figure in pay roll taxez, OT, SS, Asstra retirement utter dan what da rest of us get. Like SS and medicare. What I live off of. Like, sellen my car and muven back 2 my town home. No moe ALF and med distribution. Minus food and driven. Life sucks and I WILL NOT BE DRIVEN A NEW CAR.

 

[1971demon]

This will make some asses pucker
&
It was only approved by 54 percent


a Ford worker with one year seniority will move from $25.75 to $46.13 (including the forecasted COLA) by the end of this three-year collective agreement – a wage increase of almost 80% in addition to a $10,000 bonus.

Other highlights include:

• Base hourly wage increase of nearly 20% for production and 25% for trades over lifetime of agreement.
• By the end of the 3-year agreement, a top-rate production assembler will be paid $44.52 per hour, in addition to a forecasted $1.61 cost of living allowance (a total of $46.13); a journeyperson skilled trades worker will be paid $55.97 per hour, in addition to a forecasted $1.61 cost of living allowance (a total of $57.58).
• General wage increases in each year of the agreement with 10% in year one, 2% in year two and 3% in year three.
• Hourly wages for production workers at Ford of Canada is now $11.00 per hour (35%) higher than comparable U.S. autoworkers at Ford.
• Reactivation of the Cost of Living Allowance (COLA).
• Wage progression reduced from 8 to 4 years.
• Start rate for Temporary Part Time and production workers increasing from $24.26 to $29.67/hr., further increasing to $30.26 within 12 months, and $31.16 by the end of the agreement.
• $10,000 Productivity and Quality bonus for full-time employees, $4,000 for Temporary Part Time.
• Improvements to all pension plans.
• Increased Defined Benefit basic monthly benefit rate from $68.60 to $73.60 for production workers, and from $81.60 to $87.60 for Skilled Trades.
  • A production worker retiring at 30 years, under the ’30-and-Out’ pension program will see an increase to their monthly pension from $3,545 to $3,795. For Skilled Trades, their ’30-and-Out’ pension will increase from $3,925 to $4,225.
• Mandatory company contributions to the DC plan increase from 4% to 7%. For example, this represents an immediate company contribution increase from $3,106 to $6,172 in the first year of the agreement, for a top-rated production assembler.
• DC plan members will transition to a new DB-style pension for current plan members and all new hires on January 1, 2025.
• New quarterly payment unique to Canadian retirees, called the Universal Health Care Allowance. These quarterly payments will continue in each year of the 3-year agreement.
• Investment for Essex Engine Plant.
• Special EV Transition measures negotiated for members at Oakville assembly plant.
• Improved Supplemental Unemployment Benefit (SUB) program, raising income replacement top-up while on layoff from 65% to 70% of weekly earnings and reducing eligibility from 3 years to 1 year of seniority.
• 556 retirement incentives at $50,000 each.
• Two new paid holidays: Family Day and National Day for Truth and Reconciliation.
• Major health benefit improvements for active members and retirees, including:
  • Eliminating a quarterly $97 health care deductible;
    o Increase glucose monitoring maximum coverage from $1,600 to $4,000;
    o Increase massage therapy annual maximum ($200 to $300) and physiotherapy coverage ($200 to $400) and eliminated requirements for doctor’s notes;
    o Vision and dental care improvements;
    o Legal Services Plan and Dependent Scholarship plan will now be available to workers after 1 year of seniority (previously 8 years);
    o Among many other health benefit improvements.

The price of cars...and trucks..will take a moon shot...

 

[DavidKFla]

Lots are not full, not even close to pre-covid. You may be right about UAW members caving first, it would be ugly, ugly, ugly. Back to the bad old days of labor/company hatred.

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The majority of dealer lots are full or very close to it from what I have seen as we've traveled around the southeast.
The only lots not full are Toyota.

 

[DavidKFla]

The price of cars...and trucks..will take a moon shot...

Big rebates are already happening. Check out the Dodge rebates.

 

[1971demon]

Big rebates are already happening. Check out the Dodge rebates.

That may be....but a year or more into these contracts...watch prices...this money has to come from somewhere...

 

[1971demon]

Hickster, you are correct. From the worker's view, it's great. I don't see any possibility of them getting more.

However, Corporations don't pay for anything, the customers do.

Agreed...down the line...this is going to hurt...

 

[1971demon]

Hay 1971,
Dis duz not affect my ablitiez 2 cut female publux hair. Frum da agreement I just read above. The cumsumer will be payen much moe. Guud luck.

Pubic hair....women don't grow that anymore..do they......we need an expert...where's Linda when ya need her

 

[DavidKFla]

Pubic hair....women don't grow that anymore..do they......we need an expert...where's Linda when ya need her

I think he's talking about Publix supermarket...???

 

[Bowtie Guy]

Pubic hair....women don't grow that anymore..do they......we need an expert...where's Linda when ya need her

Well since you took it off the tracks

 

[RAMBLE1]

This will make some asses pucker
&
It was only approved by 54 percent


a Ford worker with one year seniority will move from $25.75 to $46.13 (including the forecasted COLA) by the end of this three-year collective agreement – a wage increase of almost 80% in addition to a $10,000 bonus.

Other highlights include:

• Base hourly wage increase of nearly 20% for production and 25% for trades over lifetime of agreement.
• By the end of the 3-year agreement, a top-rate production assembler will be paid $44.52 per hour, in addition to a forecasted $1.61 cost of living allowance (a total of $46.13); a journeyperson skilled trades worker will be paid $55.97 per hour, in addition to a forecasted $1.61 cost of living allowance (a total of $57.58).
• General wage increases in each year of the agreement with 10% in year one, 2% in year two and 3% in year three.
• Hourly wages for production workers at Ford of Canada is now $11.00 per hour (35%) higher than comparable U.S. autoworkers at Ford.
• Reactivation of the Cost of Living Allowance (COLA).
• Wage progression reduced from 8 to 4 years.
• Start rate for Temporary Part Time and production workers increasing from $24.26 to $29.67/hr., further increasing to $30.26 within 12 months, and $31.16 by the end of the agreement.
• $10,000 Productivity and Quality bonus for full-time employees, $4,000 for Temporary Part Time.
• Improvements to all pension plans.
• Increased Defined Benefit basic monthly benefit rate from $68.60 to $73.60 for production workers, and from $81.60 to $87.60 for Skilled Trades.
  • A production worker retiring at 30 years, under the ’30-and-Out’ pension program will see an increase to their monthly pension from $3,545 to $3,795. For Skilled Trades, their ’30-and-Out’ pension will increase from $3,925 to $4,225.
• Mandatory company contributions to the DC plan increase from 4% to 7%. For example, this represents an immediate company contribution increase from $3,106 to $6,172 in the first year of the agreement, for a top-rated production assembler.
• DC plan members will transition to a new DB-style pension for current plan members and all new hires on January 1, 2025.
• New quarterly payment unique to Canadian retirees, called the Universal Health Care Allowance. These quarterly payments will continue in each year of the 3-year agreement.
• Investment for Essex Engine Plant.
• Special EV Transition measures negotiated for members at Oakville assembly plant.
• Improved Supplemental Unemployment Benefit (SUB) program, raising income replacement top-up while on layoff from 65% to 70% of weekly earnings and reducing eligibility from 3 years to 1 year of seniority.
• 556 retirement incentives at $50,000 each.
• Two new paid holidays: Family Day and National Day for Truth and Reconciliation.
• Major health benefit improvements for active members and retirees, including:
  • Eliminating a quarterly $97 health care deductible;
    o Increase glucose monitoring maximum coverage from $1,600 to $4,000;
    o Increase massage therapy annual maximum ($200 to $300) and physiotherapy coverage ($200 to $400) and eliminated requirements for doctor’s notes;
    o Vision and dental care improvements;
    o Legal Services Plan and Dependent Scholarship plan will now be available to workers after 1 year of seniority (previously 8 years);
    o Among many other health benefit improvements.

This will make the foreign car manufacturers very, very happy and prosperous!

 

[DavidKFla]

We've all been programmed to believe that we're not worth a lot at our jobs while the corporations and their "executives" earn millions, if not hundreds of millions.

The auto workers gave up their pensions in good faith to help out the "corporations". While the top executives in the union and companies continue to earn top wages. Why can't they get back their pensions?

 

[Weather Man]

The majority of dealer lots are full or very close to it from what I have seen as we've traveled around the southeast.
The only lots not full are Toyota.

Compared to precovid, current inventory is half. That is intentional on behalf of manufacturers who wanted to have dealers carry less and customer order more. The curb may have a full line, but the back lot is empty.

 

[DavidKFla]

Compared to precovid, current inventory is half. That is intentional on behalf of manufacturers who wanted to have dealers carry less and customer order more. The curb may have a full line, but the back lot is empty.

Maybe so but rebates are happening. What does that tell you?