Stinkeye Challenger build....

[Marc W]

Very nice! But I thought you said stock frame lol

That is a stock frame. All the way from the front crash bar to the rear. I’m comparing it to a tube chassis or back halved car that actually has part (or all) of the framed removed. Also.. note that the shocks and springs mount in the stock location.

 

[Jack_Toepfer]

For a car without a chassis there probably isn’t much left of the stock subframes, lol.
Sucks about the block, could have been worse, and it sounds like you’re dealing with an amazing machine shop.
Good on Adam for buying the place!

 

[Marc W]

For a car without a chassis there probably isn’t much left of the stock subframes, lol.
Sucks about the block, could have been worse, and it sounds like you’re dealing with an amazing machine shop.
Good on Adam for buying the place!

As far as the chassis goes with mine and this blue car… that 4-link was right out of the 2015 DragPak program and is sold by the guy who was originally involved with that. The stock frame gets tied together with a number of bars in the floor that are a part of the cage. The main one being what is referred to in NHRA chassis speak as the #1bar. That is the rectangular truss that runs from rail to rail in the floor. When the cage is cert to 7.5 or faster, the main hoop has to tie into that instead of plates on the floor. That #1 bar is seen from under the car in the previous rear end picture. There are also the sill bars that tie the main hoop at the bottom to the base of the bar coming down behind the dash. Picture is worth a thousand words so….. a lot of chassis stiffening going on and that’s a good thing. The 4-link needs that for a solid triangulated base. Speaking of that older DragPak design. That was a NHRA requirement that forced them to use the stock suspension points. It uses what’s called a panhard bar for centering. That is obsolete now and I’ll be replacing that with a wishbone that Redeye Racecars is making for me now. I’ll also be modifying the link attachments to get the instant center weight transfer dialed in.

 

[RGPIII]

Such a badass car! If I could only have that one instead of my Dud!!

 

[Marc W]

Such a badass car! If I could only have that one instead of my Dud!!

You can. And it’s your color. Call it Smurf II 😁

 

[RGPIII]

You can. And it’s your color. Call it Smurf II 😁

You have no idea man! No way I could jump on that right now for what he would want! definitely a badass ride. will need to be someone who wants to race to buy it. Hopefully it stays on the west coast, I don't want to have to line up against it. haha

 

[Marc W]

You have no idea man! No way I could jump on that right now for what he would want! definitely a badass ride. will need to be someone who wants to race to buy it. Hopefully it stays on the west coast, I don't want to have to line up against it. haha

The only chance that car sells is somebody with not only the resources ($$$) but the desire to step up to that level and they’re looking at the long and expensive process of building one from scratch. Over a year full time build with soooo much waiting. It would be a huge short cut and cost savings. I don’t know if you remember but I got that car from Brian for $90k. That was a steal. I passed it to Adam to keep it in house rather that have it in the wild. The car is much better now. I think it has a 7.5 in it without spraying.

 

[RGPIII]

The only chance that car sells is somebody with not only the resources ($$$) but the desire to step up to that level and they’re looking at the long and expensive process of building one from scratch. Over a year full time build with soooo much waiting. It would be a huge short cut and cost savings. I don’t know if you remember but I got that car from Brian for $90k. That was a steal. I passed it to Adam to keep it in house rather that have it in the wild. The car is much better now. I think it has a 7.5 in it without spraying.

I really hope it sells for him, its going to be a tough sell for what he will want for it. ill continue following it. he may be better off parting it out honestly, and sadly. seems the built ones sit for sale for a long time then get parted out.

 

[Marc W]

I really hope it sells for him, its going to be a tough sell for what he will want for it. ill continue following it. he may be better off parting it out honestly, and sadly. seems the built ones sit for sale for a long time then get parted out.

Yep. That’s the truth. Reality is…. for somebody that just wants to go fast, there are a lot more cost effective ways to do it than this late model Gen 3 Hemi stuff. You really have to be a diehard Mopar fan with the money to go there.

 

[DavidKFla]

Yep. That’s the truth. Reality is…. for somebody that just wants to go fast, there are a lot more cost effective ways to do it than this late model Gen 3 Hemi stuff. You really have to be a diehard Mopar fan with the money to go there.

Everything has the "mopar tax".

 

[fumanchu182]

Everything has the "mopar tax".

The junkyard LS with the twin turbo ebay kit that goes 8s does not have a mopar tax.

 

[DavidKFla]

The junkyard LS with the twin turbo ebay kit that goes 8s does not have a mopar tax.

Yep.

 

[RGPIII]

The junkyard LS with the twin turbo ebay kit that goes 8s does not have a mopar tax.

We are Mopar guys, we don't do Ford guy stuff like that. Our engines can make the power.

 

[Marc W]

More decisions 🤓. In two weeks I’ll be taking a drive. In ‘what if’ discussions with Jim Golden at Redeye Racecars, we are going to use my car to develop a plug and play twin turbo setup for those who don’t want to go the underside mounting route. This will be a high end package that you will be able to order from them for mounting twins using a intercooled intake with the forward facing throttle body like mine, Cornerstone, etc. While there, we will be making some changes to my rear suspension to suit the small tire classes I’m planning on running. I’ve been friends with Jim for years now and he is very excited about having a hand in our project. This will free Adam up to work on his new machine shop endeavor instead of shutting everything else down for me and him to do nothing but work on my car. The Spankintime race at Famoso next week has been postponed for weather and will be rescheduled for next month. Looking forward to some of that Florida winter weather 😊

 

[DavidKFla]

More decisions 🤓. In two weeks I’ll be taking a drive. In ‘what if’ discussions with Jim Golden at Redeye Racecars, we are going to use my car to develop a plug and play twin turbo setup for those who don’t want to go the underside mounting route. This will be a high end package that you will be able to order from them for mounting twins using a intercooled intake with the forward facing throttle body like mine, Cornerstone, etc. While there, we will be making some changes to my rear suspension to suit the small tire classes I’m planning on running. I’ve been friends with Jim for years now and he is very excited about having a hand in our project. This will free Adam up to work on his new machine shop endeavor instead of shutting everything else down for me and him to do nothing but work on my car. The Spankintime race at Famoso next week has been postponed for weather and will be rescheduled for next month. Looking forward to some of that Florida winter weather 😊 View attachment 128807 View attachment 128808

I never knew this shop existed.

 

[Marc W]

I never knew this shop existed.

Vero Beach. Take a drive over to see mine after the 15th and some stuff that make it look downright cheap. Jim’s LDR Redeye Challenger is just about done. 😳

 

[DavidKFla]

Vero Beach. Take a drive over to see mine after the 15th and some stuff that make it look downright cheap. Jim’s LDR Redeye Challenger is just about done. 😳

How long will your car be there?

 

[Marc W]

How long will your car be there?

Can’t say. Shouldn't take long. It’s what they do. Look forward to learning some stuff. Especially in the suspension dept.

 

[DavidKFla]

Can’t say. Shouldn't take long. It’s what they do. Look forward to learning some stuff. Especially in the suspension dept.

I'm now living vicariously through you guys. I'm going to try and make it down there.

 

[fumanchu182]

More decisions 🤓. In two weeks I’ll be taking a drive. In ‘what if’ discussions with Jim Golden at Redeye Racecars, we are going to use my car to develop a plug and play twin turbo setup for those who don’t want to go the underside mounting route. This will be a high end package that you will be able to order from them for mounting twins using a intercooled intake with the forward facing throttle body like mine, Cornerstone, etc. While there, we will be making some changes to my rear suspension to suit the small tire classes I’m planning on running. I’ve been friends with Jim for years now and he is very excited about having a hand in our project. This will free Adam up to work on his new machine shop endeavor instead of shutting everything else down for me and him to do nothing but work on my car. The Spankintime race at Famoso next week has been postponed for weather and will be rescheduled for next month. Looking forward to some of that Florida winter weather 😊 View attachment 128807 View attachment 128808

Jim is awesome. He answered a lot of questions I had about suspension setup and its what solidified Menscers. Mike Starck, my shop, works with him on a lot.