What's next....I need a better 60'

[Marc W]

Yeah power level & over all set up will make it different for each one of us, I'm just 2.85 with 3.09 & not much suspension upgrades, so I'm thinking 0 camber or +1 camber ?

I would suggest just targeting zero. Its difficult to get it exact, so if you have to settle just a little one way or the other, make it on the positive side. I really don’t think that most of these cars are holding that compression from positive to zero on launch for very long. My car... yes because it had the power to do that, but most commonly what you see is the car pick up the front end (good for a freeze frame wheelie picture) and then it drops it and unloads the rear resulting in tire spin. At that point the wheels have returned to positive camber, you’re not flat on the tire anymore and it’s hurting you. After spending as much time as I have watching and thinking about this stuff.... I say just shoot for zero all around.

 

[oilburner]

Your .02 is valuable input, THANK YOU!! The NVH is not severe, actually it’s only noticeable with the music off. Most of what I feel is off throttle noise, like being able to feel the exhaust rumbling but it’s not exhaust. My guess it’s coming from the Diff or tires? I’ve yet to get it aligned so some of it could be coming from toe or camber not being where it should be? Be getting it aligned this Saturday. When doing the alignment should I just let them work on the rear end or should they check and or adjust the front to something as well. From all I’ve read the rear should be 0 to +.5 camber and zero toe?
What about the front?

they will adjust frt as well.

 

[Mean Cat]

Correct . You get 2 bushing in the box . 1 goes on the aluminum upper control arm on the out side . The other bushing goes on the stamped steel upper control arm on the out side .

1 box does 1 side of the car .

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Oh, my dumb ass was thinking it was just doing the aluminum arm, not both arms, thanks for clarification.

 

[Hpindy]

Oh, my dumb ass was thinking it was just doing the aluminum arm, not both arms, thanks for clarification.

You have to do both arms the same amount on each side .

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[Mean Cat]

OK, now what about toe adj., is the stock toe arm adjustable or does that need other bushings too ?... to get 0 toe.

 

[Hpindy]

OK, now what about toe adj., is the stock toe arm adjustable or does that need other bushings too ?... to get 0 toe.

The toe is the only thing adjustable back there from the factory . I had no problem adjusting my stock toe links to 0 .

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[Mean Cat]

The toe is the only thing adjustable back there from the factory . I had no problem adjusting my stock toe links to 0 .

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OK, thank goodness for that, lol.
Thanks to @Speedy! for the thread, you have a lot of info on this now so hope it helps you as much as it did me, & Thanks to @Hpindy, @moparjim, @Marc W, @16GoManGoHC2, @DGatzby & @oilburner for all the info & help.
I think I will try the moog bushings for a compromise for the camber settings & no NVH.

Now I need to You tube - how to replace bushings.

 

[16GoManGoHC2]

OK, thank goodness for that, lol.
Thanks to @Speedy! for the thread, you have a lot of info on this now so hope it helps you as much as it did me, & Thanks to @Hpindy, @moparjim, @Marc W, @16GoManGoHC2, @DGatzby & @oilburner for all the info & help.
I think I will try the moog bushings for a compromise for the camber settings & no NVH.

Now I need to You tube - how to replace bushings.

YES!! please post how it’s done I’m curious and for 160$ may rebuild my stock removed ones and see how they work, I just love experimenting lol
These are Stainless, look like the better of the 3 posted?

 

[Marc W]

OK, now what about toe adj., does the stock toe arm adjustable or does that need other bushings too ?

The stock toe arm is adjustable but like EVERYTHING in the Hellcat it’s connected with big fat sloppy jelly donuts for bushings. Wobble wobble. 😂

 

[Hpindy]

The stock toe arm is adjustable but like EVERYTHING in the Hellcat it’s connected with big fat sloppy jelly donuts for bushings. Wobble wobble.

I put polyurethane bushings in my stock toe links .

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[16GoManGoHC2]

I put polyurethane bushings in my stock toe links .

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Giving away all your secrets now James? Speedy he’s going to beat you next time you come down this way if you keep it up LOL

 

[Marc W]

I put polyurethane bushings in my stock toe links .

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Of coarse you did. But have you put the gold wrap on them yet. 😝

 

[Mean Cat]

YES!! please post how it’s done I’m curious and for 160$ may rebuild my stock removed ones and see how they work, I just love experimenting lol
These are Stainless, look like the better of the 3 posted?

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Thanks, I'll let yall know how it goes when I get to it, it didn't look to bad on the You Tube vid. I just watched but you know how that goes.
I noticed that the moog ones are life time warranty, wonder if the rubber is any different from one to another on these ?

 

[Mean Cat]

Of coarse you did. But have you put the gold wrap on them yet. 😝

CLASSIC !

 

[Speedy!]

This is great info, no worries there.

Any number of wheel and tire setups can be made to work as long as it has enough sidewall. I ran the 305/45/17 last year and it was good to about low 1.4s. Keep in mind that you will need to do the work, put in the seat time, learn the tire to get there. I currently run the 275 radial pro because the small tire shootouts require a 28 tire on a 15" rim to be legal.

Something confusing me here on the tire deal. How do you learn the tire when track conditions constantly change? I won't get much opportunity to make 100s of passes a season unfortunately, I'm gonna have to get there a bit faster.

 

[Hpindy]

Thanks, I'll let yall know how it goes when I get to it, it didn't look to bad on the You Tube vid. I just watched but you know how that goes.
I noticed that the moog ones are life time warranty, wonder if the rubber is any different from one to another on these ?

What's even better is no matter who you buy them from it has "SPC" stamped on it . Lol

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[Hpindy]

Giving away all your secrets now James? Speedy he’s going to beat you next time you come down this way if you keep it up LOL

For every secret I release I have 10 new ones installed already ........

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[Hpindy]

Of coarse you did. But have you put the gold wrap on them yet.

Not yet ....... I'm still waiting on my shipment from NASA.

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[Mean Cat]

What's even better is no matter who you buy them from it has "SPC" stamped on it . Lol

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OK, whats that mean ?

 

[Hpindy]

OK, whats that mean ?

They are all made by the same manufacturer ( moog) and sold by different resellers .

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