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To install or not to install?

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I don't like mucking about with the fuel system any more than I have to. That filter is a nice one. $250. Had it been an option on the kit I likely wouldn't have ticked the box though.

My pumps are TI285.
Well what are your thoughts @Speedy ? …..Yes or No ?....go ahead & make a new video. :whistle:
 


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I would hope he uses it, especially since he's a serious racer and I know he knows the price to have those injectors cleaned since he mentioned it one of the other videos. Would be good for everyone to see an install video as well. I doubt its a serious job but I let Injected Engineering do mine when I had the ported blower installed.
 


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Honestly it’s like a timeslip if you don’t have a slip of your car running 9 seconds then it doesn’t count,so in theory I’ve never dynoed my car so it’s actually 707 hp and 650 whp cause I have no actual proof that’s it’s anything more therefor @Dman007 he has dynoed his car and has proof of his numbers so just to let you know how far off the dyno numbers are when I drag his ass In Bradenton this coming weekend then we can be positive his hp numbers are skewed 😂😂
 


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Speedy - put the filter in!

For those that think 90's impact fuel flow in an application like this you need to watch this (or other videos out there showing the same results)
This guy is doing backyard testing.. you really need to do the math..plus my PDF is for bend with a radius.. it changes even more for a 90 degree bend.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=13&ved=2ahUKEwi37LbS1NbnAhUvlnIEHZBTCWYQFjAMegQIAxAB&url=https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/jres/21/jresv21n1p1_A1b.pdf&usg=AOvVaw3tWTmuJB35kvvunl8oMZFd
 


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Nah he scared he might spill some fuel on the garage floor
Dave that’s cold 🥶
 


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Dave that’s cold 🥶
His ocd would be in overdrive and Mrs speed would have to give him a Sedative
 


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His backyard test is just as bright as your PDF file that I read but it’s such minimum difference in fuel pressure that the change would not be noticed or even effective in with Speedy’s baby tune I don’t think he has nothing to worry about😂😂
 


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I would hope he uses it, especially since he's a serious racer and I know he knows the price to have those injectors cleaned since he mentioned it one of the other videos. Would be good for everyone to see an install video as well. I doubt its a serious job but I let Injected Engineering do mine when I had the ported blower installed.
I guess that in most cases it's expensive to have injectors cleaned & the hassle to do it , but the injectors that I bought 1000cc from F1 Injectors has a life time warranty & 1/2 price cleaning service which would only cost $48 @ $6 a piece. Not bad at all. I am staying on 93 tune so I don't really expect to have to have them cleaned hardly ever.
I'm not sure what fuel Speedy is going to use ?
 


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I guess that in most cases it's expensive to have injectors cleaned & the hassle to do it , but the injectors that I bought 1000cc from F1 Injectors has a life time warranty & 1/2 price cleaning service which would only cost $48 @ $6 a piece. Not bad at all. I am staying on 93 tune so I don't really expect to have to have them cleaned hardly ever.
I'm not sure what fuel Speedy is going to use ?
Theres also the cost of shipping both ways which adds to it. 93 octane may not matter as much but a filter is recommended with E85.
 


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I guess that in most cases it's expensive to have injectors cleaned & the hassle to do it , but the injectors that I bought 1000cc from F1 Injectors has a life time warranty & 1/2 price cleaning service which would only cost $48 @ $6 a piece. Not bad at all. I am staying on 93 tune so I don't really expect to have to have them cleaned hardly ever.
I'm not sure what fuel Speedy is going to use ?
@Mean Cat put some race gas in that car and stop pussyfooting around man get to 17 degrees of timing and get off that damn porch 😂😂
 


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@Mean Cat put some race gas in that car and stop pussyfooting around man get to 17 degrees of timing and get off that damn porch 😂😂
No thank you , the porch is comfy , :LOL:
 


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Theres also the cost of shipping both ways which adds to it. 93 octane may not matter as much but a filter is recommended with E85.
Yeah I get it with E85.
For me shipping not a issue either , F1 is local , 20 minute drive , I'm so lucky on purpose. :LOL:
 


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Yeah I get it with E85.
For me shipping not a issue either , F1 is local , 20 minute drive , I'm so lucky on purpose. :LOL:
Yea, I had to ship my IDs to Arizona from GA.
 


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Got the dual pump plug and play drop in system installed today. Pretty easy and a nice setup. It comes with an external fuel filter that ties in to the factory fuel lines. I'm not sure about installing it. I never had one on the old car, and the factory doesn't include one. In tank pumps have filter socks like you'd expect. The engineer in me thinks about 4 more spots to leak.

What say you? Install or not?

+10 on INSTALL IT !!!!
Yes, they have inlet screens but pump wear bits go some where, a big bit from a failing pump may block an injector. You like your new Redeye engine? Then You just have to ask yourself one question, Do I feel lucky??
 


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Well Do ya????
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I was tired of smelling like gasoline for the weekend so I elected not to install the external filter for now. I'll look at installing it later, but if you guys saw the dinky filter on the stock fuel pump you'd wonder why more cars don't have injector issues LOL. The filter socks on the new pumps are 400% better, bigger, and have a finer mesh. The external filter is likely overkill but may be a project I'll get in to on a rainy Saturday. The install looks easy enough, it's dealing with the fuel leaking out of the tank that'll be the PITA part.

Good news is my data logs show PLENTY of fuel now :)
 


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That's a lot of tight 90's .

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When I built the dual 450 pump fuel system in my Monte I used these off the external filter, and before the dual feed/dual cross over rails:

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Love me some full flow 90s in that -10 AN PTFE feed line. I believe in maximizing flow potential.
 


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I was tired of smelling like gasoline for the weekend so I elected not to install the external filter for now. I'll look at installing it later, but if you guys saw the dinky filter on the stock fuel pump you'd wonder why more cars don't have injector issues LOL. The filter socks on the new pumps are 400% better, bigger, and have a finer mesh. The external filter is likely overkill but may be a project I'll get in to on a rainy Saturday. The install looks easy enough, it's dealing with the fuel leaking out of the tank that'll be the PITA part.

Good news is my data logs show PLENTY of fuel now :)
If the stock sock filter on stock pump is below par ? …. I wonder if there is a better sock filter that could be replaced on the stock pump ? ….That would be nice for us guys that don't need bigger pumps !
 


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If the stock sock filter on stock pump is below par ? …. I wonder if there is a better sock filter that could be replaced on the stock pump ? ….That would be nice for us guys that don't need bigger pumps !
You don’t have to worry @Mean Cat , you’re a one pump chump anyway 😂😂
 


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You don’t have to worry @Mean Cat , you’re a one pump chump anyway 😂😂
Yeah OK , but if there is a better sock filter for stock pump ?... I would do it.

What is your opinion on the stock filter ?
 




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